Unlearning and Relearning the Bible

Kat chats with writer, campus minister, and justice program director, Brandi Miller. Kat and Brandi chat about Jesus, theology as it pertains to race, and what it looks like to unlearn and relearn the Bible.

Brandi is on staff with Intervarsity Christian Fellowship, advocating for the dignity of all Black lives. She blogs about race and faith, and spends her time musing on the role of practical theology in racial justice. You can follow her on twitter at @brandinico or visit her author pages at: http://thesaltcollective.org/author/brandi-miller/ and https://www.huffpost.com/author/brandi-miller


Singapore, Spirit, and Liturgy

To wrap up Asian American Pacific Islander Heritage month, Kat chats with Singaporean pastors and international seminary students, Jasmine and Benita. Jasmine and Benita share about their background, the role food plays in comfort, the Holy Spirit, and the beauty of using all your senses in liturgy. Enjoy!

Benita and Jasmine

Benita and Jasmine

The Beauty and Struggle of Sharing Your Story

Kat speaks with author, writer and daughter of Jamaican immigrants, Patrice Gopo. Kat and Patrice chat about the beauty and struggle of life, faith and being a Black woman in America. If you’re a creative, you’ll especially enjoy this conversation as Patrice shares some beautiful nuggets of wisdom about the process of creativity.

Visit Patrice’s website. Buy her book, All the Colors We Will See: Reflections on Barriers, Brokenness, and Finding Our Way, and follow her on social media at @patricegopo

The commentaries you heard in the beginning and end of the episode are from WFAE 90.7

Music by Lee Rosevere from FMA.


Identity, Hope and the Disruptive Gospel

Kat chats with writer, speaker, coffee drinker, yoga teacher, and author of Raise Your Voice: Why We Stay Silent and How to Speak Up, Kathy Khang, about Esther, identity, assimilation, belonging and the power of names. They also chat about niceness vs. kindness, the disruptive Gospel and about what gives them hope.

You can find follow Kathy on Instagram and Twitter @mskathykhang and visit her website www.kathykhang.com.

Music by Lee Rosevere.


Immigration, Scripture and Sass

Kat chats with writer, speaker and immigrant advocate, Karen Gonzalez, about her personal immigration story, immigrants in Scripture, and why “welcome the immigrant” rhetoric doesn’t go deep enough. Kat and Karen also chat about Karen’s upcoming book with Herald Press titled, “The God Who Sees: Immigrants, the Bible, and the Journey to Belong.”

You can find Karen on Twitter and on her website.

Music from Lee Rosevere from FMA.


The Art of Using Your Voice

In this episode, Kat chats with musician, actress and seminary student, January Lim about growing up as a Korean-American pastor’s kid, Asian-American representation, and the process of finding her own identity and learning to use her voice.

All music heard in this episode is from January, herself (and some with her mom)!

Find January on Youtube or on Instagram under @january_lim.


Friendship As Sacred Resistance

In today’s episode, Kat chats with Teesha Hadra. Teesha is a Jamaican, ex-lawyer, priest in training, and she is currently writing her first book with Abingdon Press titled “Black and White: Disrupting Racism One Friendship at a Time.”

Besides friendship, Teesha and Kat talk about growing up Black, going from being a lawyer to ordination to the priesthood, and interracial marriage and relationships.

You can find Teesha on Twitter at @TeeshaHadra.

You can also find information about her book here.


Patriarchy and Jesus from Lebanon to Iran

In this episode Kat chats with Neelou Sattarin about patriarchy, being Iranian, and what it was like to start a new life in America. Kat also chats with president of the Center for Biblical Equality, Dr. Mimi Haddad, about being Lebanese, Jesus’s interaction with women, and patriarchy across the globe.


Find Dr. Mimi Haddad’s work here at CBE International website.

Neelou Sattarin


Check out Nick and Allison’s blog and podcast: Split Frame of Reference.

Mimi’s interview with Mark Labberton on Gender Equality can be found here.

Music from Lee Rosevere from FMA.

Intersectionality and #SeminaryWhileBlack

In this episode, Kat speaks with Esperanza Gene, a hilarious mixed-race African-American Dominicana. Esperanza is a student at Fuller Seminary and is the face of a recent protest that took place on behalf of Black seminary students. Kat and Esperanza talk about intersectionality, colorism, privilege within Latinx communities, protest, and the #SeminaryWhileBlack movement.


Esperanza Gene is a Detroit native of proud Latina and African American descent. She lives at the intersection of art, activism, academia, and pastoral ministry. She received her BA in Theology and BA in English Professional Writing from Oakwood University, and is currently completing two degrees at Fuller Theological Seminary: MA in Theology and MA in Intercultural Studies.  Esperanza is the Project Assistant for the Multicultural Youth Ministry at Fuller Youth Institute, where she creates research informed practical resources for African American and Latino congregations. In all things she is deeply guided by practical theology that responds to social problems. Her priorities and passions include racial equity, social justice work, interdisciplinary research, faith and justice re-integration, wellness, and humanization of marginalized peoples through story. Aside from work she's a foodie, gymrat, hiker, and fashion-lover with eternal wanderlust and an even longer reading list.  Follow Esperanza on Twitter.

Mary, Marginalization and The Next Generation

In this episode Kat chats with four different women in four different stages of life about marginalization, Christianity and what it looks like to empower the next generation.

For the first part of the episode you’ll hear from two Filipinas: Francesca De Castro, a high school senior who shares about what it was like to move to America, and Joyce Del Rosario, a PhD candidate who talks about her work involving Mary, Jesus’ mother and Mary Magdalene. You’ll then hear from Sharyl, a college student and DACA recipient, who also shares her story about moving to America, and lastly, from her professor, Heather Thompson Day, who's also an author, speaker and advocate for young people of color.


Follow Joyce on Twitter and visit her website.


Follow Heather on Twitter, Facebook, and her blog. Also check out Envision Magazine.

Music from Lee Rosevere from FMA.

Arkansas, Abuelitas and Decolonization

For this first episode, Kat chat with pastor, preacher, interpreter and cross-cultural trainer, Inés Velasquez McBryde. We talk about what it’s like to be a Latina pastor in Arkansas, reclaiming that Abuelita Theology, and what “decolonizing” our faith looks like.

Follow Inés on Twitter and click here to listen to the full sermon from the episode, as well as others she’s preached. Logo by Julia Hendrickson/Music by Lee Rosevere from the Free Music Archive.